What I Am Learning From Porn
Nice title huh?
I started a babelog/sexlog on June 1st because I love women and the adult industry has always fascinated me (Disclaimer for Mom: The site contains pictures of naked women, but does not feature any pictures of sexual activities besides girls kissing girls). I decided a long time ago that this would have nothing to do with 9rules because it just doesn’t belong. I also wanted to see how it felt to start a site from scratch without using any of my current sites to promote it.
Within the first week I was averaging over 1,000 pageviews a day and I don’t even write for the site on the weekends. All I did was take the advice I have been saying on here and on Whitespace and applied it to the site.
I will go into more details in another entry but here are the basics. Nothing you haven’t seen before, but many of us stray from these points and begin to wonder what we could do better.
- More posts = more pageviews
- Original content = more pageivews (combine that with the above and you have a winner)
- Submit original content to other sites
- Link exchanges, if done properly, can pay huge dividends
- A great design helps a lot
- Have fun with it. Obviously this is my favorite site to work on.
- Don’t enter a crowded realm without knowing who your competition is.
Nothing special, but definitely a couple of points to keep in mind. If you happen to find the site more power to you, but I am not sure I want to spout it out to the public as of yet.
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17 opinions for What I Am Learning From Porn
Jemaleddin
Jul 12, 2005 at 1:40 pm
What, no link? For shame.
Scrivs
Jul 12, 2005 at 1:52 pm
One day…
The Star
Jul 12, 2005 at 3:53 pm
I swore I saw some tumbleweed float across your blog…wondering what happened to you :)
I’m curious about the link too…can that ‘one day’ be today?
Carson
Jul 12, 2005 at 5:21 pm
Interesting comments Scrivs. It almost seems to me that porn, gambling and other addiction/vice-oriented ventures are almost cheating. Are you concerned that you’ll warp your perception of reality? Such that everything else just seems boring/too hard/too unprofitable by comparison?
Eddie Sowden
Jul 12, 2005 at 5:42 pm
no link, hmmm that sucks. I might just have to go looking for it, who knows where that could lead me.
Just out of interest where do you get the pictures from? Do you take them yourself?
Scrivs
Jul 13, 2005 at 12:03 am
Carson, I don’t think my perception of reality will be warped at all. What am I doing will bring in a little money, but nothing major as to what many people associate with that industry. For that kind of stuff you need to have your own pictures and whatnot. For a good look into creating adult sites checkout this article at SugarBank.
Eddie, I use affiliate programs that give you free content. Not a great way to go about it because competition is just too fierce.
Jimmy jim jim jim
Jul 13, 2005 at 2:46 am
Oh Paul, you dirty little man…
Daniel
Jul 13, 2005 at 4:30 am
Paul, now i know why my site didn’t make it 9rules!! LOL.
The article at SugarBank has failed to address the real issues of running a Pull-You site although conversion rates may be higher. The costs and quality of content produced are two that immediately come to mind.
I have been running a gay adult blogsite which relies solely on Affiliates Programme payouts as well as advertising for half a year now (no Google Adsense due to adult nature) and i’ve since ditched my day job and going full time at it now. i’m making 3 times more than i used to (and the figures are increasing every month so the sky’s the limit really), am dabbling with what makes the world a happier place (porn!) and having a whale of my time doing what i enjoy.
of course running and maintaining a popular blogsite requires heckavu lotta time and effort, and there’s nothing to stop others from ripping off your content, posts, and concept. but my take is to focus on the quality and quantity of your posts in the most timely manner as possible and the bees will come, and hopefully that will deal with the competition. just focus on doing the best work and being original.
i’m still fairly new in this problogging realm, altho i have been blogging personally for a good 5 years now. blogging as a full time occupation is a whole new ballgame and a dream come true for it has married my passions of the Internet, Interactive Design, Blogging and allow me a bigger pay cheque.
i’ve learnt a GREAT deal this past year and am currently taking the site thru a new phase of development. my site is akin to a real estate, cept it’s online.
i haven’t been happier and am thoroughly excited about the prospects of the site in the hear future. i wish the best and success to anyone who’s taking or planning to take the same route as i have.
Sam Sugar
Jul 13, 2005 at 3:00 pm
As the author of SugarBank first let me thank you for finding my blog (which is less than 2 months old) and reading some of what I have to say.
Regarding Pull-you site’s and content the cost issues is no longer a major factor. You can hire a great photogropher and a great model to work in your chosen style for under $3,000. If you shooter has experience you should be able to get 3-4 sets of 40 shots (and a lot of wastage I’d advise you leave behind) out of the day. You can post the images to your site, sell them onto magazines in the US and Europe and offer them to affiliate if you choose. Rights to a single magazine should cover your costs and that’s assuming you’ve done nothing at all yourself.
Producing content is not expensive. Quality and gloss aren’t the same thing (Matt’s Models is a very high quality site with no gloss at all).
I have, and do, run Push-me and Pull-you ventures. The money’s in Pull-you.
Please feel free to argue or email me questions. I love a debate and my blog is devoted to discussions of similar issues.
Cheers,
Sam.
Patrick
Jul 13, 2005 at 4:25 pm
Interesting thread here. =)
$3000 to those who’re dipping their toes into making some money via a website might be a considerable sum. To get to the level and create enough content that will entice real subscriptions will require a substantial amount of investment. Scouting and paying for models (quality of models are usually variably tied to costs) is another cost factor, of course if you are lucky, you might come across great talent at low cost. If you’re gifted to run the entire gamut of setting up and running the site: scouting for models, producing the content, site design, site maintenance, then overheads can perhaps to kept low.
The money will no doubt be in PU sites, as long as the quality and content is what people will pay for, and hasn’t already been filled by the market. For every successful PU site, there are many failed ones.
Bandwidth and hosting costs will be another issue that warrants attention for those who wanna run their own PU site, especially if the site is video intensive.
The costs of running a PushMe site will be substantially lower than a PullYou’s although the revenue potential for a PullYou site is much greater. when done right. Depending on one’s budget, if you want to start small and earn some, PushMe site might be the way to go.
If you have killer content, enough capital, then you can try pulling people!
Sam Sugar
Jul 16, 2005 at 3:56 pm
Patrick, I agree with your analysis. I would say that managing traffic through link exchanges and other webmaster devices is a very, very time consuming job with a steep learning curve. I’ve been in the adult space since the ’90’s and I am still far behind the ‘masters’ of that arcance art.
In short people running Push me sites often underestimate the skill required. Also, because all the good sexy domains were bought years ago (though somehow I managed to buy PSPporn.com a couple of months ago for $7) Push me sites tend to be identical, nameless, brandless links lists which suggest the worst adult industry cliches.
I’m working to change this. I have developed a hybrid model which allose content producers to focus exclusively on their content. As sites like VoyeurWeb show - cheaply produced content with average models can have significant appeal.
The best advice for someone who wants to start a Pull-you site would be to start by learning how the adult web operates before partnering with a model. I know many people (with many, many cars) who started that way.
Women are what the industry’s about. They have to be empowered if men are to benifit from their appeal to other men.
nq
Jul 16, 2005 at 6:51 pm
And I am still in web design bizz …..
:)
Jonathan
Jul 20, 2005 at 3:30 am
Interesting :) Does Google Adsense allow soft adult sites? Or can you post your way of earning money on these types of sites. I’m guessing it’s affiliates of other pay-for-looksee adult site?
Anonymous
Jul 21, 2005 at 2:30 am
The site he’s talking about appears to be HorizontalDance (http://www.horizontaldance.com/).
Jim Reyndols
Nov 16, 2006 at 12:46 pm
I started working with a company called ProfitAdult.com and they have a full system. It includes the content, hosting, billing and even lots of support. I’ve already made by my intial investment in less than a week plus a lot more.
http://ProfitAdult.com
contreeboy
Nov 25, 2006 at 10:49 am
there is 100s of porn affiliate sites.check mine when u get a chance
http://www.pornfarms.com
Zimcrusher
Dec 4, 2006 at 3:30 pm
I don’t know what you are doing differently then me, Jim, but i also have a ProfitAdult site. i have spent $1,800 on advertising, and have a big ZERO customers. i’m not sure how you are earning your money back, but On my site I’ve had 42,000 people stay over 30 seconds, and 345,000 stay for less then that, and acording to ProfitAdult not one person has signed up for service. But my stats say that close to 1,000 people have stayed for more then an hour.
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