Duncan becomes CowBoy for a day
Not sure if anyone’s been following the Duncan vs Yaro glamour that’s occurred in the past few days so here’s a brief summary.
1) Yaro launches a post titled “How To Make Money With Blogs + AdSense - Free E-Book”
2) Duncan responds on EJ stating that how Joel Comm’s new product (Adsense templates) are pure Adsense spam and should be banned by Google.
3) Yaro deletes Duncans comments in order to remove his less than nice words about Joel Comm.
4) Duncan becomes Cowboy for a day (ie. the new JOAB)
5) Duncan destined to pursue this, does further research. Even the old Cowboy would not have gone this far.
I’m not going to take sides but Duncan does have a legitimate argument. However Yaro has refined his original post to CLEARLY state that his post was intended for those that wanted the free eBook and to get this eBook, they had to register for Joel Comms pre-launch email list.
Yaro: Thanks for clearing it up - it’s (now?) clear that your intentions were NOT to promote (what looks like spammy) Adsense templates, but merely the free eBook.
Duncan: While you have a perfectly good argument and I applaud your enthusiasm, knowing Yaro’s history you should be well aware that his intentions have always been honest. You certainly stirred the pot though and I think the blogosphere needs this every now and then.
Besides with the Cowboy retired, someone must take his place.
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8 opinions for Duncan becomes CowBoy for a day
David "The Old Cowboy" Krug
Jun 27, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Jamsi Jamsi Jamsi,
Who do you think sent Duncan that tip? Cough Cough. I did the research bro. Argh matey. But Duncan cleaned up the goods. Cuz I’m out of the snarking blogs scene.
City SEO
Jun 27, 2006 at 6:51 pm
Interesting blogger battle here. I hate Adsense spam pages. In fact, I’m going to be doing a photo editorial flaming a similar Adsense Scam on City SEO in the next day or two.
Duncan
Jun 27, 2006 at 11:48 pm
To be fair Jamsi, I was doing this sort of expose of blog spammers and the like on the Blog Herald years before anyone had heard of the Cowboy…I’ve just been in (sort of) semi-retirement for a while, but you know, wave around some blood in front of a shark and it doesn’t matter if he’s sworn off fish or not…. :-)
BTW I’m laying off Yaro now, still not totally happy with his response but at least he’s made some ammends. I have got a follow up piece planned though I’m sure you’ll enjoy.
meduncan
Jun 29, 2006 at 9:32 pm
duncan is such an a$$ for posting that stuff from a copyright password protected area
check this out i’m about to blow the lid on duncan riley’s little ADSENSE SPAM RING that he’s running. If you just follow some of the links on his blog its easy to figure out which ones are his. Like godlyreminders.com and some others are his. you can see the whois which proves he owns them:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5820/duncan21ct.gif
then just do an IP lookup to see the other sites he owns:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7932/duncan5tr.gif
Some of them he is linking to directly from his blog, like supplementsguide.net. here is a screenshot of that site:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8075/duncan59gk.gif
did i mention it is 100% duplicate content from free articles?
Others he does not link to directly from his own blog, but uses the other sites in the network to link to and build rank, like he does for mesotheliomalungcancernet.com. here is a screen shot of that site:
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6078/duncan36ia.gif
he tries to hide the identity of some of them with WHOIS guard, but its obvious he owns them. like if u look at the Adsense client number on gameruse.com which is publicly registered to duncan, then compare it to the adsense client ID on supplementsguide.net which is whois protected. Its the same ID:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3401/duncan47gy.gif
hmmm maybe he feels it is more important for cancer patients to visit HIS mesothelioma site than o let’s say..the Mayo clinic? OR maybe he just wants to game the system because mesothelioma happens to be one of the highest paying Adsense keywords ever
haha- busted!
Duncan
Jun 30, 2006 at 3:33 am
Nothing really new there I’m afraid, bought Gameruse on sitepoint about 2 weeks ago…I tend to buy sites, jazz them up a bit then resell them on sitepoint, or even setup blogs for sale as well…got a full history over there if you dig a little deeper who ever you are, and there isn’t any spam or stolen content there, I’ve used some free articles from some sites (as I’ve advocated publicly in the past on numerous occasions) to supplement some sites (with FULL attribution as well I might add) also to see what the effect of them is….indeed I have all sort of weird and wonderful sites built and half built over a couple of servers…experimenting and playing with things is how I learn what works and doesn’t, everything from ad placement through to plugins and installs. The meso one is funny actually, I got a dare to see if I could get traffic on it…and nup, too much competition I’m afraid for this word…Godlyreminders (which again I posted about when I bought) was because I wanted to see how a links directory worked (so I bought the site from someone on sitepoint) might even end up selling it soon as well, so again, nothing here that isn’t already on the public record if you’d actually care to take a look.
PS: there was NO copyright messages on Joels/ Erics program…none the less they are still fair use.
City SEO
Jun 30, 2006 at 5:26 am
Adsense Duplicate Content Scammers busted here (they’re selling you duplicate content that’s “SEO-optimized”… puh-lease!):
http://cityseo.blogspot.com/2006/06/adsense-spam-scam-exposed-photo.html
Photo editorial on some jerks trying to con innocents into buying junk. I hate Cons!
FYI: Google has indexed duplicate content on a site of mine, but it has no PR, despite valuable backlinks. Tells you what it thinks of dupe. Oh, and it was properly referenced too.
You can use duplicate content, but don’t expect it to be worthy anything for SEO. (Like those Adsense scammers flamed in the post mentioned above.)
Note: My problem wasn’t their selling duplicate content. It was the implied suggestion that it was helpful for SEO.
blogHelper » Joel Comm’s “Made for AdSense” Saga
Jun 30, 2006 at 3:18 pm
[…] If you want some background on the issue, I suggest reading the extended coverage by Duncan Riley here, here and here (in chronological order) or jumping to Jamsi’s summary post over at WorkBoxers. This is definitely one of those “stories” where the resulting comment “wars” light up your day with fun and laughter (not unlike the 9rules saga many months back). […]
Shirazi
Jul 3, 2006 at 6:45 am
Interesting!
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